Well, I saw another knee doctor today (well I guess it was yesterday) to get another opinion, I guess. Or it might have just been because a friend highly recommended this one. He doesn't recommend surgery on my knee. He said with all the arthritis it probably would not do any good. I was kind of wondering about that myself. He was more personable than the first one. (I guess that must be important to me) He did not feel the need to tell me that loosing weight would help my knees. I guess he thinks I'm smart enough to figure that out for myself. The first doctor told me that, like he had room to talk, if you know what I mean. No I wasn't offended, just thought it was ironic. (if that's the right word) I did get an injection of a steroid in my knee (I hate steroids, just thought I'd put that out there), but I hope it helps.