Tips on negotiating with a toyota dealership Hi guys,
Looking to purchase a new rav 4 xle awd or xse awd, anyone have any advice on how to negotiate with a dealer on...
TheRealMeatloaf replied:
Visit either CarCostCanada.com or Unhaggle, add 3% to the dealer cost, subtract manufacturer incentives, add tax and offer that to the dealership.
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larrybrownsports1 replied:
Why would you negotiate the price down? Is there a dealership with your preferred choice and its priced too high?
BraetonWilson replied:
Here's two simple tips to bring the price down a little bit:
1. Be reasonable. Keep in mind that the rav4 is in high demand and toyota doesn't need to offer big discounts to attract buyers. Apart from manufacturer rebates, the dealer discount will be several hundred off, not several thousand off. If you ask for too much off, he will simply dismiss you as another time waster.
2. Tell the dealer you will buy the vehicle now and then actually buy it now. Now is the magic word. Say the dealer tells you he will sell you a new rav4 for MSRP minus manufacturer cash rebates minus $500 dealer discount plus taxes and fees. You tell the dealer you will buy the rav4 now if he bumps the dealer discount up to $800. The fact that you're willing to buy right away will motivate him to give you the additional discount.
Follow the tips above, be honest with your salesman, and you will have a pleasant experience. Allow the F&I manager to say his spiel and politely decline if you don't want what he's selling.
Car Dealership Questions / Recommendations So, I'm in the market for a new car / SUV (don't really know what to get yet). But I'm looking at a mid-size hatch/sedan (like...
PitterPattr replied:
Avoid Dilawri anything.
RDBRULZ replied:
TLDR:
1. Figure out exactly what you want
2. Get quotes from as many sources as possible and play them against each other
3. Don't listen to any of the upselling BS, reiterate exactly what you want
4. Test drive the car before you buy it
5. READ EVERYTHING BEFORE YOU SIGN
6. Don't be afraid to call out sneaky bullshit they do or just walk out the door
7. Pay close attention to the financing specifics, you might be able to do better at your bank
8. Enjoy your new car
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I'm no expert by any means but hopefully this advice will help.
First of all, do your research on the vehicles you are interested in before you even walk in the door. Know the options for them, know how much it costs for each option (You can easily find this data online).
You can then find dealers in the area that sell what you are looking for, when I bought my last car I emailed every Toyota dealer within 100km and asked them for quotes. Most didn't bother with me, dealers don't like giving out through email. But I did get a couple. They based the quotes on what I was willing to put in for a downpayment, my income and the exact options I wanted.
You can take these quotes and use them to get better in person quotes too, but you mileage may vary in terms of how much you can get shaved off.
From this point, take the quotes into the local dealers that have what you want. Don't tell them you have a quote yet. Tell them what you want in exact terms, no more, no less. They will try to upsell you on everything. Just nod, smile, let it go in one ear and out the other. Don't sign anything until you've read it and understood it.
Take what you want to drive on a test drive to make sure it lives up to your expectations.
Once you are sure you want it, have a quote in hand from the dealer and the financing paperwork filled in but not signed you should sit there and read through the entire thing. Make sure the total price makes sense when compared to your other quotes, make sure they aren't trying to slip in any extended warranties or protection plans or features or accessories you don't want. If they do, call them out on it. If they still don't get it down to the price you want, show them the other quotes and ask them why their competition can do it cheaper then they can when you haven't even stepped foot in their door.
Pay attention to the interest rates and the term, though these should have both been laid out ahead of time. Double check them anyway. You ideally want the shortest term you can afford and the lowest interest rate. If the rate is too high, tell them you'll go check with your bank/credit union to see if they can get you a better rate. If they don't budge, do it. Someone will want your business. Be wary of 0% interest offers. They often come with extremely long terms and the no interest offer isn't for the full term. Trust me, they will make their money on you.
Don't ever be afraid to walk out of a dealership if you haven't signed anything. If you have a deposit, bring it in cash. Some dealers pressure you into putting money down through a debit or credit card before any paperwork is signed in order to try and keep you locked in to buying from them. Technically they would have to refund you if you change your mind but it's an extra bit of pressure to keep you from walking away.
After I had agreed on the terms for my car they sat me in a room with a high pressure salesman for almost an hour while he went over every available option and accessory for the car. I finally told him that if he didn't give me the car I wanted, exactly as I wanted that I was going to walk out of there. That shut him up real quick.
yourboyfriend replied:
i bought a new crossover last october - came down to the usual suspects: - honda crv - mazda cx-5 - toyota rav4 ended up picking the rav4 - based on total cost of ownership, warranty, and repair costs over 10 years. also, toyota's safety sense package is no joke. it's probably not as "fun" to drive as the crv or cx-5 (slightly less powerful engine), but its reliability is proven, the mileage is on par with the other two, and you can't beat the cargo space (i do a lot of camping and volunteer work, so hauling shit around is constant). to top it off, tony graham offered me 0% financing which sealed the deal.
Pricey_Hamsters replied:
I forgot fuck 417. All of them. Dont care if its a "new owner".
James445566 replied:
Be prepared to walk away. Sure the salespeople will still make money off you no matter what, but they need you more than you need them. I know a few guys and the majority get paid shit and are starving
maniczebra replied:
If you decide to go with VW, I have nothing but praise for JP at Bytek VW. We recently dealt with them to trade in our old diesel Jetta, and they were absolutely fantastic. JP knew his stuff, was very pleasant to deal with, and didn’t pressure us at all. He said that us finding the right vehicle for our needs was more important than his commission, even if we ended up not in a VW car.
dumpcake999 replied:
I found the service reps at Kanata Mazda to be horribly rude on multiple occasions.
martiandreamer replied:
Try to get the total price on the vehicle in question, and not the amount they tell you you’ll pay per month.
UngratefulCanadian replied:
Most dealerships are scam. Avoid *Lancaster Auto* at all. They sell rebuilds without notifying customers too. They sold 3 lemon cars and suvs to myself and another two people. Wish I knew their ture nature beforehand.
parccedres replied:
You should probably decide what features you want in a car first. Safety? Mileage? Environmentally correct?
54692d4558b62da01af1 replied:
For the love of god and all that is holy buy an EV or at least a hybrid (with at least a 15+ kWh battery).
atlas170 replied:
Protip: You can get free reports from unhaggle.com and carcostcanada.com that list the invoice price for new vehicles you want (what the dealer actually pays). If you go in to a dealership with that knowledge, and offer (invoice + freight + pdi) + 3-5% profit margin it'd give a nice baseline to negotiate from instead of MSRP. I'd also suggest browsing /r/askcarsales
aaandfuckyou replied:
I just bought a CX-5 from Carling Mazda. They were straight talking, no-nonsense, and I got exactly the deal I went in for. I have had little to no luck trying to play dealerships off each other, most will not entertain the idea of bidding for your business. Know what you want to pay and stand your ground. If they don't give you what you want move to the next dealership, but be ready to sign if they do.
mg392 replied:
Had a really bad time at Stirling Ford, but a great time with Rockland Ford in December when I was looking at new vehicles. But as always YMMV
vegetablesoup777 replied:
Agree with avoiding dilawri. My experience with them was their service dept and whoever I spoke to really. Walked away from Ottawa dodge as well. I bought my Jetta used from Pathway Hyundai and had a great overall experience. I've been taking my car to Taylor Creek for service and they have been fantastic, so much so I plan on shopping there next time. If you do decide on a sedan I totally recommend the Jetta. Have had it over a year now and still love it.
dumpcake999 replied:
if you are a bad negotiator you can use dealfinder.ca to order the car for you and to handle the negotiations.
RPL79 replied:
All dealers are scum. as long as you know this going in, you should be fine. My only suggestion is negotiate the purchase price, not the monthly payment. they can manipulate the price any way they want to reach your planned monthly payment. You can shop around using that price. Let them know that you're in the market but shopping around. Decide before going in if you want any maintenance plans or extended warranty. They will try and up sell them in the financing office after the deal is already done, which will increase your payment. Personally in all the new vehicles i have owned, the money spent after standard warranty is expired will not equal the cost of the extended warranty.
cooliebwoy replied:
Have had great experiences with DOW & Civic motors Honda. When I last got a vehicle tow additional things I haven't seen mentioned yet is: 1. Know what the dealer pays ( carcostcanada or unhaggle). 2. Shop end of month when they are a bit more interested in hitting sales quotas
notworking-throwaway replied:
On another note, is anyone familiar with salesperson 'dibs on walk-in's?' Ideally, I'd like to choose the salesperson I deal with, rather than have the first person that talks to me end up being my salesperson. Having done a tour of Kanata Centrum auto-mall, I get this 'dirty' feeling by 70% of the auto sales people that approach me.
Going on a lib ... anyone in this group own a car dealership? I have an opportunity idea where we would love to have a local car dealership be a shuttle to our...