Looking for someone with experience to help remodel house. New deck, new bathrooms, new kitchen, hardwood floors, new windows, plumbing, electrical, etc.
Kelly J. replied:
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Misael S. replied:
Contact FP builders they are a company out of the bay but when they work here they only hire local union workers like carpenters and laborers
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Taylor Made Homes LLC530-318-0297Www.taylormadehomesca.com
Tyler J. replied:
Bill Mohrs construction and painting. 1 (530) 613-9367 Find us on yelp too! Will come out and do a free estimate. Great work, built and reminded houses here in tahoe. Painted tons of houses inside and out as well! Good luck.
Security Monitoring service Hi redditors,
I have moved to my first ever home in Canada Ontario. Prior to this I was living in a condo. I have zero knowledge of how...
Imnotsureimright replied:
I don’t know anything about home security services but FYI you almost certainly need to install more smoke alarms than that. In Ontario there must be, at a minimum, one smoke alarm on every level of your home and outside all sleeping areas ([source](https://www.mcscs.jus.gov.on.ca/english/FireMarshal/MakeitStop/InstallSmokeAlarms/install_smoke_alarms.html)).
FWIW what you are planning seems like massive overkill for a home here unless you are living next to a crack house or something - most people here don’t have a home security system and those that do might have something like a Ring doorbell or maybe one outside camera that they monitor themselves and that’s it. This is a pretty safe community.
lingenfelter22 replied:
Depending on where you are in town, I would say it's not worth doing in terms of break ins. I'm sure they happen, but I have not heard of it in 15 years. If the water leak, smoke detectors, etc are remote monitored that is nice to have but can probably be linked to your smartphone.
I'm a bit wary of home monitoring services as I switched from Bell to Roger's home phone (or vice versa) and someone disconnected the security box. ADT was the security company and they did not notify me that my signal had been dead for 8 months, with me paying the monthly bill! Someone could have just cut the line outside my house and ADT would not have even called to notify me... that is terrible service/security.
fizzspo replied:
Who are you and what are you defending with all these stuffs and that too in Kitchener ? I get the smoke & fire alarm.
LongoSpeaksTruth replied:
This appears to be overkill, upsold to you by an eager salesperson
Sure, everything you've mentioned would be nice to have, but not essential. I would consider a lot of the items you listed as "luxury items"
I think it really comes down to this: How much money you got ? I haven't priced security systems in a while, but I'm going to guess with the hardware costs & subsequent monthly monitoring fees, you're at about ~10K+
I would call contact The Monitoring Centre in Oakville https://www.themonitoringcenter.com/contactUs.cfm They will send out an independent tech to assess things
If I were you, I would start off real basic
-5 Windows and door sensors: for probable entry
-2-3 Motion Sensors
-Maybe a camera
I think the novelty of being able to control your thermostat remotely or seeing multiple camera views on your phone, is going to wear off when you're making your 54th monthly payment of $316 (or whatever)
Again, it comes down to what you want to spend, but a lot of what you listed are pretty well "toys"..
*Make sure you have enough smoke detectors. And a Carbon Monoxide detector. Both of these items are far more important to your safety than anything on your list ...*
Good Luck
nrv_vrn09 replied:
The only company I know that either makes all these products themselves or has associations is Nest. The Yale Nest smart lock, nest thermostats, cameras, nest detect sensors. You'll most likely have to buy a subscription service for the video storage to the cloud. Ecobee has all of what you're looking for except the door lock, but the hardware quality is slightly lower at almost the same price as nest.
systemfalter replied:
Rogers cameras currently do not record on more than 1 device at a time, so you will NOT get true 24/7 recording on all 3 cameras with them, unsure about other providers. I currently have a system with FrontPoint Security, pretty solid setup. They use [alarm.com](https://alarm.com) parts
Scruff_Kitty replied:
-Change all locks on the house as soon as you move in -Lock your doors at night -Close all floor level- road facing window at night -Lock your car doors This should be all you need (Edit- but also what other redditors said about the smoke/carbon monoxide detectors - get one or two 3 packs of the combo ones from Costco)
J-B02 replied:
I'm currently using my own nest cameras and CCTV hardware on my property, but have the Telus service (I have 3 basement window sensors, 1 motion sensor, and 4 door sensors). I cannot speak on the installation experience as it was installed by a different company many years ago, but I can speak on the current Telus service. They are very thorough in their responses. If someone enters through the rear door without disarming the system, it sets off an elevated alarm, and will have a call to check in on us after we disarm. A number of years ago, we had left a door slightly open while we were away, and the wind blew it open enough to trigger the alarm. Within minutes, they had alerted authorities and authorities were quick to arrive and they had come to the conclusion that it was the wind. Overall very happy with their service and do recommend them.
LightmineField replied:
Okay ... so, I'm going to disagree with many of the responses in this thread, and provide you with my perspective.
(1) First up, security systems aren't just for security. They're part "smart home" (and there's some awesome stuff you can do when you have sensors in each room), they're part "peace of mind", and they're part convenience (in terms of being able to unlock doors remotely to "let the cleaners in", and so on). So no, you don't have to live beside a "crack house" as one redditor suggested to get a security system.
(2) Everyone that I know who has been broken into didn't have a security system or cameras, and later investigated getting one. Having your stuff stolen sucks, and it's totally reasonable to want to have something that can protect your belongings.
(3) That said, the system that you were quoted looks reasonably similar to what I have in my house in terms of number of sensors. I have had my Rogers Smart Home Monitoring system for nearly 9 years (I was one of the first customers in Kitchener); however, I have been slowly "decoupling" from Rogers by reducing the number of Rogers sensors, and buying different / independent sensors to replace or supplant that functionality. I'll explain why below, in detail.
Broadly-speaking, I find Rogers too expensive on one hand. And, on the other, their devices want to exist only within the Rogers ecosystem and they do not want them to communicate with any other smart home devices. It's unrealistic to expect that Rogers will make every possible electronic device in your home, so it's pretty much inevitable (I think) that your house will eventually have a few "smart things" on one system (like Homekit and Google Assistant), but not on Rogers, and when this eventually happens to you, as it did for me, you will find yourself constantly switching apps and wondering why your smart home isn't very smart any more.
With that said,
(4) I have done a bunch of research on security systems. The best one on the planet is, in my opinion, Simplisafe. However, it's not available in Canada yet. I am holding out (waiting for Simplisafe to come to Canada), and if they ever do, I will be their first customer. In the meantime,
(a) I have a Google Nest doorbell camera. It's great and better than anything that Rogers offers. I also have a Nest indoor camera, which used to be useful for talking to my house cleaners (pre covid). I have, in the past, also had a Ring doorbell camera. There are several other doorbell cameras. They're probably all reasonably equivalent.
(b) I have Moen Flo sensors and a Moen Flo valve for leak detection. I cannot recommend Moen Flo enough. I need to say it again: Moen Flo is fantastic, and you will not regret setting aside the money to invest in this system. It's expensive to buy and setup (it cost me about $1200 in total, including paying the plumber). But, it has no monthly monitoring cost, and it has already saved me from a disaster because once the leak sensors detect a problem, they can shut off the water pressure to your house to stop it from getting worse.
See, it's all well and good that a Rogers leak detect can tell you if your water softener has decided to leak in the middle of the night, but when this happens at 2amand your phone is on silence (or you're out of the house), what will you do? Moen Flo can actively prevent the damage because any water detected by the sensors, or a continuous drip detected by the valve, can shut off the valve itself and cut the pressure.
(c) 3rd party smart thermostats, like Ecobee and Nest, are "iffy" and I don't recommend them. This is because they are not usually "communicating", which means that they can't necessarily access all of the special fan modes of your furnace. So, if you live in a house with a modern Lennox furnace, as an example, your smart thermostat (nest, ecobee, or whatever) won't necessarily be able to put your Lennox XC16 and SLP98 into a combined low-speed A/C mode, thereby saving you money. Your best bet is to stick with a smart wifi thermostat from the actual furnace vendor. Note that, even though it costs more initially (e.g., Lennox iComfort Wifi), the actual HVAC's thermostat doesn't usually come with a monitoring fee.
(d) Smart door locks are neat but I don't trust them from a security perspective. I have 1 on my inside garage "man door", but I figure that a thief would have to get through the main garage doors before that one, so it's reasonably fine. Mine is a Schlage, and it has Apple Homekit support, but Schlage broke its Homekit interaction a few months after I installed mine, and basically bricked the device as far as Homekit goes -- so I had to buy another bridge to connect it to my Google Assistant. (Welcome to the world of "smart" homes.)
(e) For fire alarms, you'll only need 1 which is connected to your security system so that it can qualify for the ~5% professional monitoring capability -- but I'm assuming that you will not disconnect the other ones which are already in your house, and need to be there for legal/safety reasons. My advice, to be honest, is to install the 1 with your security system, but then swap out your other smoke/CO alarms for a couple of "Nest Protect" alarms, which are combo CO/fire alarms, and offer cool night time pathway lighting if you get up in the middle of the night. Very well made, and have both battery & hardwired options. I highly recommend them.
(f) I don't think that a window sensor is necessary. Honestly, if the thieves are coming in a window, they're probably breaking the glass. You should just get a glass break detector, and sensors for your exterior doors. That said, you'd be better off thinking about getting a motion sensor light outside.
(g) Let me add to that: as you grow your "smart home", you may eventually add some Philips Hue bulbs. I love my Philips Hue lights, and have a few Philips Hue (hard-wired) lights in my backyard. They're connected to Philips Hue motion sensors, so that when a person is detected walking through my backyard, my lights turn on automatically, and they can do so with different colours and intensities depending on the time of night. You don't need something this fancy, but just having motion detection is probably a better bet than investing in a glass break sensor, and honestly, you can probably cut out 1 or 2 of the cameras if you do this. Don't underestimate lighting as a deterrent for thieves.
(5) Finally, in terms of security companies. Unfortunately, at this point in time, there's nothing great for Canadians. As I mentioned above, Simplisafe is by far the best, but not available to us (they won't ship to Canada). Rogers & Telus are expensive and vendor-lock you into a "smart" system that doesn't play nicely with Apple Homekit or Google Assistant.
One runner up is "abode", which sells expensive DIY, Homekit-compatible systems; but there are several drawbacks: (1) no returns in Canada (all sales final); (2) expensive shipping to Canada; (3) they don't make the hardware (they're rebranded Climax systems from Taiwan); (4) their Homekit capability is really "iffy" and doesn't work for many people; (5) their cameras are not that great; (6) you'll be $1200 - $1800 CAD into the hardware ecosystem, and it's a bit less "locked-in" because of the Google/Apple integration, but still locked-in; (7) they offer professional monitoring in Canada but there are reports which question its reliability.
Another runner up is "ecobee", which is a Canadian company that now also sells a DIY home security system. Their hardware is apparently great, their API and cloud connectivity not so much. They only recently'ish launched "Haven", which is a kind of monitoring system that you subscribe to for fairly cheap to unlock all the monitoring capabilities. It's Homekit compatible. I feel like it may eventually evolve to compete with Simplisafe, but there aren't enough integrations and sensors yet to make this worthwhile. Note that the Ecobee camera (which is the base station, of sorts) also has Amazon Alexa built-in, and I'm not a fan of this for privacy reasons.
Another runner up is a security company out of Toronto called "Think protection". I have read a bit about them, they're kind of a mish-mash of high-end security vendor, combined with DIY devices, and lower-cost monitoring solutions. Maybe something to investigate.
stampedebill replied:
I have the Costco camera kit that I installed myself and I can get alerts to my phone but keep in mind that requires wifi or data .
I strongly discourage wireless cameras because they need to be recharged and if your in a high movement area the batteries will not last long before needing a charge.
People ask why in KW do you need cameras .
My significant other works from home and can look at the monitor in the home office to see if someone is outside.
I was able to retrieve a license plate of a suspicious person, I have seen several fox wandering at night in the winter (seen the paw prints in snow) . we have a Little Free Library in front of our house that was vandalized prior to cameras and no issues since
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thatdudeorion replied:
Since you mentioned Smoke and CO, my recommendation is to get separate dual sensor(ionization and photoelectric) smoke detectors and standalone CO detectors. The ideal mounting heights for detecting smoke and CO could not be more different, and none of the combined smoke/CO detectors I looked at had both of the smoke sensor types you need to detect flaming fires and smoldering fires, the combo units always seem to have only 1 of the 2 plus the electrochemical sensor for the CO. Additionally Consumer Reports doesn’t recommend any of them.
MillennialSpending replied:
Hubitat hub Inovelli red series switches for all switches. (They can controll smart lights to if you want)
Real_Carlisle replied:
For security system with home automation, including Sonos, take a look at the Qolsys IQ 2+ with Alarm.com on the backend. Alarm.com offers integration with a number of different companies that allow control from the security system and the Alarm.com app/website.