Self defense courses for men? My husband, who has been fairly sedentary since he retired, was attacked last week when he was walking home from the grocery store after he...
DisparateDan replied:
I'm sorry this happened to him - people can be really shitty.
Honestly, it takes *years* of training to get reliably good with martial arts, and there's a risk of a false sense of confidence early on which might make things worse. In the short term, 6 months of boxing training will give him the best bang for buck, in terms of improved fitness, spatial awareness and self-defensive ability - and even some experience in coping with actually being hit. I've heard some good things about Krav Maga, and there are classes in Seattle, but I have not tried it.
Another thing to consider is some tactical, situational awareness or grey man training (including not yelling angrily at strangers even when they are being assholes!). Self defense is a lot more than fighting skills, and discretion is the better part of valor!
giffyRIam replied:
Well is this the first time this has happened? The odds are low it will happen again.
For someone that is retired? A can of mace or medium sized dog will be more than enough and just being mindful about igniting someone's road rage; people get shot. Any retired person is highly unlikely to intimidate me, a reasonably in shape male... unless he's Mike Tyson. I know some martial arts, and it's true a 100lb girl can flip me over her back, but that's only if she's an expert (and lucks out) or I am fighting drunk. One punch, and a retired guy/small woman can easily die or get a nasty concussion.
Please do not consider getting a firearm. I own handguns and rifles, but I feel like I would never advocate for anyone, including myself to conceal carry. Trained police and former military personnel often kill innocent people... and they have years of training.
eddywouldgo replied:
Even if your husband knows karate, the other guy might know kaboom. Avoidance is best.
seattlethrowaway999 replied:
Gun-fu
-NotEnoughMinerals replied:
A gun.
Justthetip74 replied:
https://www.westcoastarmory.com/
Plissken47 replied:
Traditional martial arts teaches rules. Anything that teaches rules is bad. The real world doesn't have rules. Traditional martial arts are to defend against the school-yard bully and for adults who want to have fun. A previous poster mentioned Krav Maga. This is a system made for the real world. Also, it doesn't take months or years to become good at a system.... if it's a good system. You might want to try Target Focus Training in Las Vegas. They have a very effective weekend course.
fightingfish18 replied:
Don't sign up for "self-defense" classes they are pretty garbage usually. Muay Thai is a great art I'd recommend, as is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. A good Krav course is just gonna effectively be a blend of striking and grappling. Bear in mind, self-defense requires practice. It's not "train for a month and I'm good to go." It's continually practicing, drilling, and sparring. The first question to ask an instructor is "how much live sparring do you do?" Feel free to reply or message me if you want gym suggestions, I train myself and know people at gyms all over the city.
Wing Chun is more of a traditional martial art. TMAs can be good exercise, but frequently aren't the best option for practical applications (not hating on TMAs here, have plenty of friends that love em)
bigpandas replied:
Why would self defense classes be segregated by gender? In Seattle? In 2019? Our bathrooms are co-ed statewide now. Nonetheless, I hope he gets his training and never needs it.
meaniereddit replied:
> he yelled at someone who almost ran him over while he was crossing the street. It apparently escalated from there, and the person then got back in his car but followed him continuing to make threats. You aren't specifying how he was attacked, but as others have said, unless you are seeking a confrontation, which your husband was by yelling that can escalate. You should reconsider yelling at people who already have already demonstrated they are willing to endanger you.
PelagianEmpiricist replied:
Wing Chun is fairly legit as a martial art. Muay thai is also solid.
I used to take lessons in Muay Thai, kickboxing, and karate, and was an assistant student teacher, as well.
I do also recommend getting a handgun, training with it, and getting a CPL. Despite 3.5 years of MMA training, I would \*much\* rather 1) avoid a fight 2) de-escalate if I can 3) walk away 4) verbally assert boundaries 5) pull firearm 6) consider martial arts a \*very\* last resort.
Self defense is a \*huge\* undertaking and it's not just "take a few classes." Granted, the dojo I was at did teach self defense seminars, including ones specifically for women, and we know of at least one student who successfully defended herself after a single seminar. Still, I wouldn't accept that as the typical result.
wickedmessenger-WA replied:
every martial art for self defense other than Ju Jitsu is a fucking scam. its also the only way a sedentary old head might possibly subdue an attacker
Krankjanker replied:
A beginner's course, a pistol and a CPL are easily obtained and take approximately 30 days to accomplish all 3.
tastysmelt replied:
Sounds like your doughy mans should keep his mouth shut if he can’t back it up
ALGAEREEF replied:
Don't yell at someone next time if you aren't prepared to deal with the consequences. Don't talk the talk if you cant walk the walk.
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MrsWhatsit-75 replied:
This is the first time it’s happened as far as I know, although I know he does seem to mutually harass someone who lives by the park. Im not quite sure if his judgement is getting worse, I think it might be, but unfortunately until it markedly changes, what can I do? Even my friend with early onset Alzheimer’s, had at least a yr or two before she was diagnosed.
QuakinOats replied:
Muay Thai or BJJ (Brazilian Jiu Jitsu) would be the two best martial arts to learn for self defense.
However I would highly recommend instead spending that time in two areas one, on cardio and running so he can better avoid a threat. As well as taking firearm training classes. Starting with the most basic beginner class and then moving on to classes focused on concealed carry. Especially for someone in their 60's.
You don't just learn how to use a firearm in these classes. You learn deescalation, how to avoid confrontation, how to pay better attention to your surroundings, etc. The goal of every class I've been to is to not have to use a gun at all, but they will teach you how use one if it is the only remaining option. They would teach your husband to leave his ego/sense of justice at the door and not confront/antagonize random aholes.
If you're intimidated by firearms tell them when you call to schedule and tell them in your class. It's not something to be embarrassed of and they will make sure you feel comfortable before moving on to each new step.
Fruehling4 replied:
Look into krav maga
MrsWhatsit-75 replied:
Good lord, not connected, but he walked over to the post office and then down to see what’s left of the fire, and there is some waste of humanity lounging at the bus stop & yelling vulgar ethnic slurs at the busdriver (who got out of the bus to hook up the connection.) Buildings are a big mess. Sad.
ptchinster replied:
You arent kung-fu-ing it if you get attacked. Attackers choose the time, place, and can have some sort of weapon. Use every advantage you have. https://dol.wa.gov/business/firearms/faconcealreq.html
bojurx replied:
Honestly if you want real self defense get a concealed weapons permit and handgun. Train yourself. If you want hand to hand self defense, bjj and muay thai. Wing Chun, aikido, are total bullshit martial arts with very minimal real fight skills applications. Muay boran seattle is a good place to start.