Any recommendations for great dog trainer, that doesn't use treats? I'd love to learn Clicker training....
Sheila C. replied:
Stacey Ayub in Ventura! Good Dog! 805-312-1011
Liz H. replied:
I and all the trainers I know use treats, lots of them, and not for 12 years either- mainly in the teaching phase. It is a tool, and like most tools can be used very effectively. If you want a quicker, easier, more fun way to teach any animal, positive reinforcement, using positive reinforcers is always better and much faster. This has been measured too, the technology is now 20 years old! Who has thousands of hours these days to train their dog? That is just one reason I use positive methods. If a method seems harsh it IS harsh and not just for sensitive dogs. All training works- all parenting works for that matter, that doesn't mean it is good- look around you!? It truly does not take pain to teach an animal - ever. I know this is a new concept for many folks. As I am leaving town I really am not trying to change anyone's mind- heck you can go buy a HUGE pinch collar down at the humane society. I used to use them. I am very skilled at popping dogs, keep the pinch collar tight- no loose hanging down links. They are very effective when they are on. I just don't need them anymore. I now longer use coercive "do it or else" type of training. What I do is so much fun, effective, and with so few side effects that I would never go back to such harsh methods. This is NOT the norm in Ojai, but this is changing as people get more educated, anyone can hang up a shingle and call themselves a dog trainer. If you are a little bit curious do some reading, Karen Pryor, Dr Susan Friedman, Dr. Ian Dunbar are all fantastic. Don't take my word for it. Do your own research. Positive training is not "soft" either, it is just as rigorous if not more so. We just don't rely on punishers to get or maintain behavior. There are side affects with any method, the side affects of positive methods are joy, for the animal and the human. Who doesn't need more joy in their life? Here is a short article from one of my favorite trainers: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/behavior-works/201002/trainers-jackhammers-need-not-apply
Risa H. replied:
Chelsi Woolwine is your person.
Holly J. replied:
Try Jolene at humane society she has another class starting soon...April I think....or Evelyn Framet
Jill M. replied:
I'd recommend getting on YouTube and watching The Dog Whisperer for a couple of hours, then spending some time with your dog. Dogs respond to trust and love. Make them feel safe. Make sure you know what you want, so that you can show them what you want. Mean it. Sometimes you have to be the firm bad guy, doesn't mean you have to be mean. Take some time every day, give them lots of exercise and routine, et voila. That's French for "Bob's your uncle"
Marilee S. replied:
Clicker Training usually involves treats. I've been working on Chelsi. You need to stay away from most of the established trainers in the Ojai. Russ Avison, Canine Logic is very good, but he's out of Fillmore. Are you up on the Karen Pryor stuff?
Liz H. replied:
Glad you enjoyed Marilee Sherman, Positive training is like this big secret here in Ojai. So funny too because the technology is mainstream now in every other city I go to. I don't try to change anyone any more, just enjoy what I do and share when requested. It is part of a general ethic, all the "shoulds" people have around dogs. A dog should work just to please us. Just silly, dogs want to please themselves, not us! So many myths around behavior and mainly because our nation is so behind in the sciences. Understanding how behavior works and the most effective methods for getting and changing behavior can be learned so easily. Get Karen Pryor's latest book if you don't have it. She is brilliant as always. I have learned the most this year from Dr Susan Friedman. Combining behavioral analysis with clicker training has been the most rewarding for me. Hard science combined with mechanical skill. Communication at its best. You would think Ojai would be all over this?
Pam P. replied:
Liz, that is why I am so grateful to know Chelsi Woolwine! Animal Behaviorist using Positive Reinforcement is THE way!
I am looking for a fantastic dog trainer for our Lab puppy as well the best Vet around...Suggestions..? Thanks
Sharon C. replied:
Dr Fryer at animal clinic of oak view.
Brooke C. replied:
Dr. Bailey
Megan S. replied:
Dr. Fryer at Animal Clinic of Oak View is the best!
Pam P. replied:
Dr. Fryer and Dr. Bailey.... Genie Tuttle for Dog Training as well as Val Stallings....
Sharon C. replied:
Fryer is pricy? For what? I don't find him expensive at all. Very comparable to others in the area except Ventura, where they are more expensive. Genie Tuttle at www.doggenie.com is excellent.
Heather R. replied:
Dr. Sallen is the best Veterinarian (I no longer have to go out of town for my pets' medical care) and Seaside Scramblers for the training. http://www.seasidescramblers.com/obedience/
Shawna S. replied:
Dr Sallen is the best vet. He is great!
Gail M. replied:
Dr. Bailey!!
Katrina M. replied:
Evelyn Frament is fantastic ! There are several classes types of training methods. most important to start quickly.. I took a puppy class in Sherman Oaks because they sterilized the training room. I then started classes with Evelyn . She is tough but clear and my big Ridgeback needed strong discipline as well as reward training .. It's good to try different classes ! Good luck
Hannah D. replied:
Evelyn Frament is the best dog trainer around
Kimmi H. replied:
Animal Clinic of Oak View
Bonnie F. replied:
Matt Bailey!
Marcia M. replied:
Matilija vet. Drs Bailey and Bogart The best straightforward honest and so caring!!